At a certain point in our dialog I stopped responding to him and started writing the posts “Dialog with a [W]hite Supremacist” Parts I through VI. He had given me a lot of material and I wanted to begin the task of trying to flesh out his ideas. I think he wanted to keep commenting back and forth. But, after a while that sort of exchange becomes counter productive because our egos get involved and the discussion of the issues begins to take second place to trying to make the other person appear foolish.
But he kept commenting. This time he was commenting on my commentary of the comments from the post “Ego and Forgiveness.” It was all getting very meta. Much of his commentary was a repetition of thoughts he had already expressed. But now and again he would introduce something new. The following series of articles is my attempt to present his ideas as I understand them and provide whatever commentary on them I can. To be honest most of what he wrote was incomprehensible. It seemed to make a great deal of sense in his mind but he had trouble articulating these ideas in a way that made sense to me. Often when I asked him to clarify what he meant he became obstinate and accused me of being willfully ignorant or unable to recognize the truth of his ideas because I approached it from the standpoint of “Radical Autonomy.” He had trouble accepting the possibility that his ideas were anything but obvious and straight forward to me.
The radical autonomist, to maintain his appearance of radical autonomy, ie., his appearance of having more freedom than the rest, must ultimately destroy his Origin and blur his final destination. In other words, the radical autonomist must perpetually fill a self-created vacuum that has no beginning or end. He completes this task through cycles of self-creation/self-annihilation each time due entropic laws losing a little bit of “matter” in which to create a new Self ultimately leading to Final Liberation… Self-annihilation… No more “matter” in which to create the next new Self that was promptly destroyed when recognized as a particular impediment to one’s autonomy.
This label “Radical Autonomist” is very important to him. To him there are the true believers acting morally with what he calls “God-ordained free will” who represent a small fraction of the population. Then there are the “Radical Autonomists” who I presume seek autonomy from God which ultimately results in “self-annihilation.” He has never defined “God-ordained free will” except to say that it is the pursuit of perfection. He calls this perfection “Supremacy” but seems resistant to say that “Supremacy” in this context is related to supremacy over other people. He calls it “Objective Supremacy” which he relates to the teachings of Christ which he seems to think (inexplicably) encourage each racial grouping to perfect themselves independent of other racial groupings. He rejects the notion that this particular teaching of Christ requires scriptural support which I find confusing because how else does one know the teachings of Christ if not through scripture? What would this other source be?
As you can see his intellectual framework is very complicated and difficult to follow. Each idea is layered upon another in a complex tapestry. I have a hard time approaching it systematically. However, it all seems painfully obvious to him. As such anyone who cannot make sense of it is either willfully ignorant or under the influence of the philosophy of “Radical Autonomy.”
Several times he has labeled me a Radical Autonomist and seems to assume I follow all the tenants of Radical Autonomism that he sees laid out in his head. It is unclear to me what he thinks these tenants are other than the ultimate desire to break free from God. But I have no desire for this outcome. This he will not listen to but sees every action I take and every idea I express to be further evidence of his beliefs.
He talks about the Radical Autonomist “creating cycles of self-creation and self-annihilation.” I’m not sure if he is referring to the Eastern notions of reincarnation where the ultimate goal is to escape the cycle of rebirth. It seems to fit on some level because there is the idea of achieving “no self” which sounds a lot like his “Self Annihilation.” However, in the Eastern context (at least to the extent I understand it) escaping the cycle of rebirth is a desirable outcome and to him it is not. He sees it as separation from God but I think this is a mistake. I believe according to the Eastern model, liberation from the self is a return to God. In other words it is the “self” that causes the separation from God.
He talks about “no new matter being available to create a new self.” I am not sure what he is getting at here. I am not even 100% sure he is talking about reincarnation. Certainly most sects of Christianity do not believe in reincarnation with the possible exception of the Gnostics. His rhetoric does not echo other Gnostic themes as far as I can tell, however.
So in the end I arrive where I started with him. Trying to make sense of his ideas is extremely confusing. The more I try the more confusing it becomes. But I will continue.